qplearn
09-13 03:07 PM
Folks,
I am speaking in my personal capacity here. While I am all for freedom of expression and assembly, I don't think that rallies will in any way help our cause. We have to talk to people and participate in various forums to make them aware of our cause. Standing and protesting is not going to help us, because our voice will still be lost in the din...we need to speak where it matters and be heard where it matters...
RR
I am not saying rallying is the only way, but do remember that participating in rallies will get us some recognition.
CNN will always ignore us thanks to our friend there, but has New York Times ever reported our plight? Has Jim Leherer ever talked about us? The main stream media does not even know us!
We need to do something that catches the attention of the media; just getting more members and more funds may not be enough. We need to write letters to editors of major newspapers like NYTIMES and WASH POST.
I am so glad about the strong reponse to this thread.
I am speaking in my personal capacity here. While I am all for freedom of expression and assembly, I don't think that rallies will in any way help our cause. We have to talk to people and participate in various forums to make them aware of our cause. Standing and protesting is not going to help us, because our voice will still be lost in the din...we need to speak where it matters and be heard where it matters...
RR
I am not saying rallying is the only way, but do remember that participating in rallies will get us some recognition.
CNN will always ignore us thanks to our friend there, but has New York Times ever reported our plight? Has Jim Leherer ever talked about us? The main stream media does not even know us!
We need to do something that catches the attention of the media; just getting more members and more funds may not be enough. We need to write letters to editors of major newspapers like NYTIMES and WASH POST.
I am so glad about the strong reponse to this thread.
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bigboy007
07-18 05:18 PM
how can i talk to those knowledgeble service reps from the service center. can you please suggest me how i can get to them, i have been trying to talk to them since morning and i could not get beyond the first service rep. any tips on how to get to them
Simple : tell them u have applied and its been more than 3 weeks and no response yet and tell them that last week they asked to call back so that they can forward to other cs reps of service centers
Simple : tell them u have applied and its been more than 3 weeks and no response yet and tell them that last week they asked to call back so that they can forward to other cs reps of service centers
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gsc999
07-11 07:05 PM
I'm more of the opinion that White shirts and Denims should be fine. Suit in bay area makes no sense. We are all after all geeky engineers after all.. like some one said!
A
Weather forecast for Saturday at this venue = 82 degree F. Partly cloudy.
Today's humidity level was 46%. As many locals will agree, this is not conducive weather for formal wear.
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USCA0993.html
A
Weather forecast for Saturday at this venue = 82 degree F. Partly cloudy.
Today's humidity level was 46%. As many locals will agree, this is not conducive weather for formal wear.
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USCA0993.html
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smisachu
12-17 09:59 AM
Is this situation only in Chennai consulate or in all consulates in general? I have not heard of any trouble at other consulates. I am taking an appointment this week and will choose a consulate that may work faster (Delhi or Cal).
Any feed back will be appreciated.
Hi,
I am also struck in the same situation. My Interview was done on 7th Dec and so far I did not get the passport. Vfs website says "Your passport has not been handed over to VFS. I sent an email to 'ChennaiNIV@state.gov'. Got a reply that application is under process will be processed soon.
Thanks for all the responses.
DesiXP
Any feed back will be appreciated.
Hi,
I am also struck in the same situation. My Interview was done on 7th Dec and so far I did not get the passport. Vfs website says "Your passport has not been handed over to VFS. I sent an email to 'ChennaiNIV@state.gov'. Got a reply that application is under process will be processed soon.
Thanks for all the responses.
DesiXP
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sundewei
12-03 05:27 PM
I heard that it needs to be at least 21 months to be able to win the law sue...and suing them might not work anymore when my pending time is qualified.
If someone else with similar names/same birthdays commited a crime, why do we need to suffer as a possibly "HIT"?
If I were to wait for 4 years for Name Check, I rather be the person commiting the crime so they can reject my I485 instantly.
-Frank
:cool::cool::cool:
If someone else with similar names/same birthdays commited a crime, why do we need to suffer as a possibly "HIT"?
If I were to wait for 4 years for Name Check, I rather be the person commiting the crime so they can reject my I485 instantly.
-Frank
:cool::cool::cool:
trueguy
08-25 04:11 PM
There is a spillover of 22000 visas from FB to EB starting Sep 01 2008. Does anybody know how this spillover is divided between EB1/EB2/EB3?
Can we expect 28.6% of this spillover in EB3? Just like we get 28.6% of annual quota?
Can we expect 28.6% of this spillover in EB3? Just like we get 28.6% of annual quota?
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go_gc_way
02-13 04:51 PM
Logiclife,
Many of the members are aware of criticizm then and now of IV actions/decisions. It is probably difficult for you to keep up the course while answering them.
However, please ALWAYS keep in view of the members who support you , by doing so, I believe your actions will represent 99% of the membership.
While members probably are some what aware of details of efforts , your this post further explains what it takes. We always appreciate the great work you are doing. Thank you for the update.
I THINK YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT , WITH THIS POST. I support you and I am sure many others.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ACCHIVEMENTS LAST YEAR. I am waiting for March.
Many of the members are aware of criticizm then and now of IV actions/decisions. It is probably difficult for you to keep up the course while answering them.
However, please ALWAYS keep in view of the members who support you , by doing so, I believe your actions will represent 99% of the membership.
While members probably are some what aware of details of efforts , your this post further explains what it takes. We always appreciate the great work you are doing. Thank you for the update.
I THINK YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT , WITH THIS POST. I support you and I am sure many others.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ACCHIVEMENTS LAST YEAR. I am waiting for March.
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asanghi
05-24 01:24 PM
Probably we at IV should change our message to "No representation, No tax."
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shirish
02-05 04:44 PM
Hello everyone,
I was just thinking about this the past couple of months and maybe we dont even need to ask for Green cards. MAYBE our approach should be "Let the H4s work". Once husband and wife can both work, the green card can take its time. Right now the Biggest problem with most people is that "my spouse cannot work!". Maybe if we lobby for h4s to be eligible to work that may solve the problem.
Now before this suggestion creates a HUGE "Dhoom", this is JUST a suggestion. The current political climate does not look like it is going to be easy in any way to put any provisions for Green card increases. Besides if the logic is "Let temporary workers be temporary", this approach fits in with that logic, coz we are not asking for GCs (permanent residency), just more temporary EADs.
I agree to this to a certain extent, but along with "Spouse canot work" the other issue is getting tied to an employer and getting exploited as a result of that.
I was just thinking about this the past couple of months and maybe we dont even need to ask for Green cards. MAYBE our approach should be "Let the H4s work". Once husband and wife can both work, the green card can take its time. Right now the Biggest problem with most people is that "my spouse cannot work!". Maybe if we lobby for h4s to be eligible to work that may solve the problem.
Now before this suggestion creates a HUGE "Dhoom", this is JUST a suggestion. The current political climate does not look like it is going to be easy in any way to put any provisions for Green card increases. Besides if the logic is "Let temporary workers be temporary", this approach fits in with that logic, coz we are not asking for GCs (permanent residency), just more temporary EADs.
I agree to this to a certain extent, but along with "Spouse canot work" the other issue is getting tied to an employer and getting exploited as a result of that.
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mlk
06-22 07:28 PM
wow it's just a stupid poll on a friggin PS battle guys, you sound so desperate...
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logiclife
06-07 01:24 AM
Is immigration a right? ABSOLUTELY.
Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.
Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.
A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�
Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.
First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).
Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.
Earned Right or Birthright?
The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.
So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.
And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.
So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.
�Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�
� Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)
Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.
Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.
A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�
Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.
First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).
Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.
Earned Right or Birthright?
The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.
So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.
And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.
So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.
�Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�
� Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)
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Praveenkumar
10-29 10:52 AM
caliguy
Could you please send me the letter that you sent to Sec. NAPOLITANO-
Thanks
Could you please send me the letter that you sent to Sec. NAPOLITANO-
Thanks
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maine_gc
07-11 03:32 PM
I can not emphasis this enough. We need out of state volunteers to help call bay area members!
I will help you. Please send me phone numbers
I will help you. Please send me phone numbers
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Aah_GC
07-18 11:03 PM
We should gather again and fight for the common cause of improving the GC process time. We should all be grateful for the interim benefits we would get, but we should not stop here. Let us gather again and fight for the next big thing.
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Winner
06-03 12:18 PM
Mary Bono � California 45'th District
Took my name, address and Bill #�s.
Brian Bilbray � California 50'th District
Left VM
Ken Calvert � California 44'th District
Spoke to a lady named Rebecca, she sounded like she was not happy that she is receiving many calls from IV members. She was trying to tell me that she has received the message and will pass it on to Rep, but further calls are not going to help.
Once I asked her "Are you suggesting that we (IV members) should not be calling your office regarding this important bills", she toned down a bit and took my message.
Jerry Lewis � California 41'st District
Spoke to the concerned person; she took my name, address and Bill #�s.
John Campbell � California 48'th District
Took my name, address and Bill #�s.
Gary Miller � California 42'nd District
Left a VM.
Question for people who understand Washington better than me�.
Do we really have to ask for the person who handles legislative and immigration matters or it is ok to leave message to the person who answers the phone? I guess the answer is �it�s better to talk to the person who handles immigration matters�, but as per my observation, immigration person in representative�s office deals with any immigration issues related to constituents.
Took my name, address and Bill #�s.
Brian Bilbray � California 50'th District
Left VM
Ken Calvert � California 44'th District
Spoke to a lady named Rebecca, she sounded like she was not happy that she is receiving many calls from IV members. She was trying to tell me that she has received the message and will pass it on to Rep, but further calls are not going to help.
Once I asked her "Are you suggesting that we (IV members) should not be calling your office regarding this important bills", she toned down a bit and took my message.
Jerry Lewis � California 41'st District
Spoke to the concerned person; she took my name, address and Bill #�s.
John Campbell � California 48'th District
Took my name, address and Bill #�s.
Gary Miller � California 42'nd District
Left a VM.
Question for people who understand Washington better than me�.
Do we really have to ask for the person who handles legislative and immigration matters or it is ok to leave message to the person who answers the phone? I guess the answer is �it�s better to talk to the person who handles immigration matters�, but as per my observation, immigration person in representative�s office deals with any immigration issues related to constituents.
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smodekurti
10-12 10:25 AM
Friends,
I too have received an update from CRIS about reopening my old H1B from my previous employer which is a large multi-national organization. I have changed the company since then and I have already received my EAD with the new company. I am a bit worried about the outcome of this review. If in the event of revoking the H1b of my previous employer, will my current H1B will also be revoked or am I safe irrespective of the outcome. Would really appreciate if someone can provide any feedback.
Thanks
I too have received an update from CRIS about reopening my old H1B from my previous employer which is a large multi-national organization. I have changed the company since then and I have already received my EAD with the new company. I am a bit worried about the outcome of this review. If in the event of revoking the H1b of my previous employer, will my current H1B will also be revoked or am I safe irrespective of the outcome. Would really appreciate if someone can provide any feedback.
Thanks
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number30
05-08 07:14 PM
Congrats DESI
US citizenship is a final stop for most/many immigrants. Post Sep 11, there has been a surge in nationalization applications because technically GC is like a long term visa to stay permanently. Therefore there is always a risk of losing GC because of DUI or other trivial or accidental issues etc.
Also post Sep 11, a lot of govt/sensitive projects that were available for GC only have been restricted to US Citizens. You lose a significant chunk of the available jobs market if you are a GC holder in the Maryland/DC/North Virgina area. In fact I know a lot of GC who kept their old passports but because of these hassles eventually decided for Naturalization.
Yes that is the one reason. Moreover i can get the Indian citizenship back by staying in India for 5 years on OCI card or PIO card. It is that simple. But Once i go back to India coming here is big problem. So I planned to take USC and Do an R2I later whenever i need or I want.
This week i became an USC after 9 years of stay in US. I can retain USC and stay in India. Came to US in 2000. Applied GC in 2002 Jan got the green card 2003 December with EB3
funny thing is While starting the Interview officer said " Oh you are a new immigrant" . I said I am here since year 2000. Officer replied you have just completed 5 years on Green card.
US citizenship is a final stop for most/many immigrants. Post Sep 11, there has been a surge in nationalization applications because technically GC is like a long term visa to stay permanently. Therefore there is always a risk of losing GC because of DUI or other trivial or accidental issues etc.
Also post Sep 11, a lot of govt/sensitive projects that were available for GC only have been restricted to US Citizens. You lose a significant chunk of the available jobs market if you are a GC holder in the Maryland/DC/North Virgina area. In fact I know a lot of GC who kept their old passports but because of these hassles eventually decided for Naturalization.
Yes that is the one reason. Moreover i can get the Indian citizenship back by staying in India for 5 years on OCI card or PIO card. It is that simple. But Once i go back to India coming here is big problem. So I planned to take USC and Do an R2I later whenever i need or I want.
This week i became an USC after 9 years of stay in US. I can retain USC and stay in India. Came to US in 2000. Applied GC in 2002 Jan got the green card 2003 December with EB3
funny thing is While starting the Interview officer said " Oh you are a new immigrant" . I said I am here since year 2000. Officer replied you have just completed 5 years on Green card.
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mallu
12-04 11:55 PM
Hi I've been a NC victim for almost 3 years. I have heard all kinds of speculations on the real reason behind USCIS/FBI decision,like the amount of the tax you pay, your political view, your education level,etc. all influence the result. Could that be true or it's just purely a bureaucratic backlog? Something interesting to think about I guess.
They can do whatever they want under the cover of national security, even arrest you and keep in detention without bail, right ?
They can do whatever they want under the cover of national security, even arrest you and keep in detention without bail, right ?
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mirage
03-11 11:40 AM
The best thing you can do to me is 'Ignore me', I promise you I will ignore you. I have never ever insulted or used bad words for anybody ever on a Cyber forum, may be just b'cause I've never encountered a person like you.
But if you insist on insulting somebody you are going to get it back....Green.Tech,
I understand where you are coming from. And I am sorry that some of my recent posts were irresponsible.
Frankly, after mumbai attack I have been a different person. I come to this forum to learn and provide any information I can provide. But it bothers me to see few jerks like mirage who don't have any clue of how things work, and they just start posting on the forum "remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits" 30 times a day, as if that will be sufficient to remove country limits. And in more ways this uneducated style bothers me. I will try to ignore it and go my way.
I am right now going to speed dial that other side of me, good and informative side.
.
But if you insist on insulting somebody you are going to get it back....Green.Tech,
I understand where you are coming from. And I am sorry that some of my recent posts were irresponsible.
Frankly, after mumbai attack I have been a different person. I come to this forum to learn and provide any information I can provide. But it bothers me to see few jerks like mirage who don't have any clue of how things work, and they just start posting on the forum "remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits, remove country limits" 30 times a day, as if that will be sufficient to remove country limits. And in more ways this uneducated style bothers me. I will try to ignore it and go my way.
I am right now going to speed dial that other side of me, good and informative side.
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InTheMoment
11-05 10:32 AM
Very happy for you Bradman !! Enjoy :p
...but remember it can be pure coincidence that your letter to 1600 Pennslyvania made any difference. Moreso when the namecheck and the approval..all happened within 2 weeks of the letter !
Anyways no harm trying any and all legal ways !
The President George W Bush,
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Mention in the subject line: FBI Name Check pending.
Also send it by a regular post as I have seen and it worked for me, whether it was the FL, State Senator or the Local Congressman !
Also make it a point to write at the top of the envelop (Immigration Assistance). Let the letter be very personalized and write your traumatic experience.
All the best !!!
...but remember it can be pure coincidence that your letter to 1600 Pennslyvania made any difference. Moreso when the namecheck and the approval..all happened within 2 weeks of the letter !
Anyways no harm trying any and all legal ways !
The President George W Bush,
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Mention in the subject line: FBI Name Check pending.
Also send it by a regular post as I have seen and it worked for me, whether it was the FL, State Senator or the Local Congressman !
Also make it a point to write at the top of the envelop (Immigration Assistance). Let the letter be very personalized and write your traumatic experience.
All the best !!!
merebaap
06-24 03:26 PM
Insurance prices are fixed by the insurance company and filed with the government. And government regulates the price. No matter from where you buy the insurance, you will have to pay exactly the same price for the same insurance.
Therefore, it is better to buy from a broker who will be willing to help you not only at the time of sale but if any help is needed at the time of claims. If you buy directly from the insurance company, you are own your own in case you need any help.
Regarding which broker to buy from, call around and find out which one you feel more comfortable with and buy from them.
Therefore, it is better to buy from a broker who will be willing to help you not only at the time of sale but if any help is needed at the time of claims. If you buy directly from the insurance company, you are own your own in case you need any help.
Regarding which broker to buy from, call around and find out which one you feel more comfortable with and buy from them.
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