willigetgc?
06-18 09:25 AM
Be Unreasonable & a cause of progress, not just a beneficiary.
And now to the UNreasonables:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw
Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)
Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".
They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.
The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.
The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.
And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --
All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.
But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:
"If we did all the things we are capable of, we would literally astound ourselves."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.
Not having participated in any previous efforts, the skepticism I had when I landed in DC vanished the moment you started the training session. You are right, if we are not goaded into action, we are content to refresh the visa bulletin every 1st Friday of the month - why 20? 50 times a day!!
Never once did I realize that by clicking on refresh button - I am actually doing nothing to change the outcome of what will be published. However, during the training, during our lawmaker meeting in DC - I realized I AM ACTUALLY WORKING TO CHANGE THAT VISA BULLETIN
I realized that my participation will not bare immediate fruits but just that I added a good dose of Miracle Grow and Water. The amount of sunshine is controlled by the powers beyond me, but IV and I are working to make sure that our plant does not get overshadowed by larger trees. Will I be ready to add more Miracle grow in the next 4/5 months? ABSOLUTELY.
Every IV member can take this as a challenge or as a request - watch the political environment and follow what is happening on the IV forums and action items. As things get warmer, talk to your bosses, spouses and be prepared to participate in Lobby or Rally efforts that will propel our issues to the forefront and get the solutions (be it in whole or partial). Be prepared to participate. Find reasons to participate in such efforts and not excuses/contention/indifference. If you can't do it, find others to take your spot. Do what it takes.
We may be high skilled in technology but we have a long way to go in terms of communication - and to find you LOGICLIFE, an excellent communicator - it is a privilege, be trained by him, and to actually be in a meeting with him - Priceless.
Lastly, I want to say, that I have become so "Unreasonable" and am trying to convince every friend of mine to be active in IV for our issues, that I have come to a point where I want every high skilled immigrant to perceive solutions to immigration the way I do!!!
And now to the UNreasonables:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw
Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)
Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".
They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.
The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.
The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.
And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --
All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.
But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:
"If we did all the things we are capable of, we would literally astound ourselves."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.
Not having participated in any previous efforts, the skepticism I had when I landed in DC vanished the moment you started the training session. You are right, if we are not goaded into action, we are content to refresh the visa bulletin every 1st Friday of the month - why 20? 50 times a day!!
Never once did I realize that by clicking on refresh button - I am actually doing nothing to change the outcome of what will be published. However, during the training, during our lawmaker meeting in DC - I realized I AM ACTUALLY WORKING TO CHANGE THAT VISA BULLETIN
I realized that my participation will not bare immediate fruits but just that I added a good dose of Miracle Grow and Water. The amount of sunshine is controlled by the powers beyond me, but IV and I are working to make sure that our plant does not get overshadowed by larger trees. Will I be ready to add more Miracle grow in the next 4/5 months? ABSOLUTELY.
Every IV member can take this as a challenge or as a request - watch the political environment and follow what is happening on the IV forums and action items. As things get warmer, talk to your bosses, spouses and be prepared to participate in Lobby or Rally efforts that will propel our issues to the forefront and get the solutions (be it in whole or partial). Be prepared to participate. Find reasons to participate in such efforts and not excuses/contention/indifference. If you can't do it, find others to take your spot. Do what it takes.
We may be high skilled in technology but we have a long way to go in terms of communication - and to find you LOGICLIFE, an excellent communicator - it is a privilege, be trained by him, and to actually be in a meeting with him - Priceless.
Lastly, I want to say, that I have become so "Unreasonable" and am trying to convince every friend of mine to be active in IV for our issues, that I have come to a point where I want every high skilled immigrant to perceive solutions to immigration the way I do!!!
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lskreddy
12-19 09:55 AM
mine. Thanks for your efforts...
insbaby
11-11 09:21 PM
Thunderbolt,
If not you, somebody else will take this matter to the cops, and that person could even be me. Sorry!!!
I feel sorry for your situation, but you have no choice.
He might be thinking that the biggest mistake he has done so far is, came to IV for suggestions!!!
If not you, somebody else will take this matter to the cops, and that person could even be me. Sorry!!!
I feel sorry for your situation, but you have no choice.
He might be thinking that the biggest mistake he has done so far is, came to IV for suggestions!!!
2011 It reminds me of this:
santb1975
11-18 04:22 PM
Please contribute
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pappu
12-20 09:47 AM
Looks like this campaign is loosing the steam..... My $500 have been waiting for two days now..... We started with 33% capital and not even at 50% ...this forum cannnot even run for 17%..... forget the next 50% we need to cover by 31st December.... Looks like I saved some money.
No Anurakt. Our members will not let that happen. Members do continue the contributions. only about 100 members have paid till now. We are 7650 member strong.
No Anurakt. Our members will not let that happen. Members do continue the contributions. only about 100 members have paid till now. We are 7650 member strong.
gc_check
04-13 10:38 PM
Do you or anyone who thinks that backlogs are due to labor substitution have any proof to claim so ?
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Well, There are many people still waiting for GC with original labor and not substitute labor with PD 2003 or prior to that. I'm not saying Sub Labor is the only reason, but it is one of the reason. Even though they are few...the impact is big... With 7% per country limit and visa numbers looks like would not spill over to EB3 due to demand in EB2 and other categories, even very few (say 3000 - 6000 labor sub applications) could consume a year or 2 years worth of visa numbers for this category for retro countries.... Even each family member (dependent) would consume a visa... with atleat 2 visa per applicant, 3000 - 5000 total EB3 labor sub could easily consume 2 years quote... if you count all.. then the "U" in VB might make sense... For EB3 ROW, there are lotz of people from Canada, S. Korea, Thailand, Australia, UK etc, and it went 'U' from 2003... The dates could move well for ROW... but for retrogressed country, I do not see the bright side yet.... Also the 485 PD was current for all categories almost all of 2003 & 2004 till Dec 31 2004, It retrogressed starting from Jan 2005 and later.... Also, the total 140,000 is for all EB categories. The 3000 - 5000 is just a conservative realistic guess.. not based on any data. Do the Math !!! You might agree !!!
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leoindiano
08-21 05:14 PM
What about the people who got RFEs for 485?
Do you guys think the visa numbers are counted for those people or not:confused::mad::o:(
RFE cases, have very good chance that a visa number is counted towards it. Since, case was opened for processing.
Do you guys think the visa numbers are counted for those people or not:confused::mad::o:(
RFE cases, have very good chance that a visa number is counted towards it. Since, case was opened for processing.
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polapragada
09-14 01:33 AM
your frustration at IV and the core.
You can do that and IV (core or its members) will not bite at you, because we know we are all part of the same movement, with the same frustrations, pain and stress associated with uncertainty. What is really needed is channelling the frustration toward action, mobilization and support at the grass roots.
The opposition is strong. But if we are to succeed, we need to work together. IV work is not easy. Takes time, commitment and money. Lots of people have been trying to do it for a long long time now. But circumstances and uncertainty/unpredictability associated with the legislature and governmental agency(ies) have always been the deterrent for IV's success.
Reversal of July 07 VB, multi-year EAD, Extended OPT etc. - IV has played significant roles. Under tough circumstances, IV has been able to obtain temporary measures that provide interim relief to you and posterity.
The day will come when retrogression will become history. But nobody knows what the calendar date of that day is. I surely hope that the day falls in 2008.
As a start, have you looked at the High-Five campaign started by a IV member? Please donate $5 for that campaign. That is the least you can do.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Well said
You can do that and IV (core or its members) will not bite at you, because we know we are all part of the same movement, with the same frustrations, pain and stress associated with uncertainty. What is really needed is channelling the frustration toward action, mobilization and support at the grass roots.
The opposition is strong. But if we are to succeed, we need to work together. IV work is not easy. Takes time, commitment and money. Lots of people have been trying to do it for a long long time now. But circumstances and uncertainty/unpredictability associated with the legislature and governmental agency(ies) have always been the deterrent for IV's success.
Reversal of July 07 VB, multi-year EAD, Extended OPT etc. - IV has played significant roles. Under tough circumstances, IV has been able to obtain temporary measures that provide interim relief to you and posterity.
The day will come when retrogression will become history. But nobody knows what the calendar date of that day is. I surely hope that the day falls in 2008.
As a start, have you looked at the High-Five campaign started by a IV member? Please donate $5 for that campaign. That is the least you can do.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Well said
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walking_dude
11-21 02:40 PM
Use ----
So, how did you do it BharatPremi? You just paypal to info@immigrationvoice.org?
So, how did you do it BharatPremi? You just paypal to info@immigrationvoice.org?
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vikki76
08-12 02:58 PM
Hmm..I take back my words..maybe it is notice date as exact term per USCIS is "receipt notice date".
Or in typical USCIS fashion..whatever they think best :D
Even I was wondering same thing- Notice Date or Received Date. USCIS website says Received date is taken into account while looking at service centers processing times.
Here is exact line-
"IMPORTANT: If your receipt notice date is earlier then the processing date shown, we suggest you call our USCIS Customer Service Office at 1-800-375-5283 for assistance."
Of course, I personally wish that Notice Date takes precedence as it is not our fault that one file just kept on sitting and in saga of moving dates and PD, each day makes a difference.
Or in typical USCIS fashion..whatever they think best :D
Even I was wondering same thing- Notice Date or Received Date. USCIS website says Received date is taken into account while looking at service centers processing times.
Here is exact line-
"IMPORTANT: If your receipt notice date is earlier then the processing date shown, we suggest you call our USCIS Customer Service Office at 1-800-375-5283 for assistance."
Of course, I personally wish that Notice Date takes precedence as it is not our fault that one file just kept on sitting and in saga of moving dates and PD, each day makes a difference.
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himu73
07-07 04:48 PM
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers
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widad2020
03-09 07:44 PM
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alisa
02-04 01:44 PM
I totally agree with you my friend.
I came across this website last year in November. I got active in December, and contributed, and tried to get active in my state chapter.
When I come across posts that want to remove country caps, or some other measure that is going to be harmful to me, I have to stop and ask myself if I am shooting myself in the foot by supporting IV.
Its not about whats fair. Nor about what common sense is. Its about self-interest.
If we are increasing the size of the pie, then it benefits me (ROW) to be here. If we are to fight each other over crumbs, then it doesn't.
Alisa,
what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around
I came across this website last year in November. I got active in December, and contributed, and tried to get active in my state chapter.
When I come across posts that want to remove country caps, or some other measure that is going to be harmful to me, I have to stop and ask myself if I am shooting myself in the foot by supporting IV.
Its not about whats fair. Nor about what common sense is. Its about self-interest.
If we are increasing the size of the pie, then it benefits me (ROW) to be here. If we are to fight each other over crumbs, then it doesn't.
Alisa,
what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around
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realizeit
02-27 01:18 PM
Dear newbie2020, QASleuth, NolaIndian and Others,
I will be there for this conference call.
Sorry folks for staying away from the communication going on in this thread for some time. I am personally going through some changes now. This Wednesday evening I came to know that my present job assignment is going to end shortly. (Fortunately, I have a new job offer). Now I am in the process of trying to get into this new job and it will take time to get adjusted to this new job. This means, I have to leave my H1b and use AC21/EAD to accept the new job. I had a conversation with one of the attorneys of Murthy law firm regarding all the Pros and Cons of my Job change. I documented the whole conversation and will be posting that to this site shortly for everyone else's use.
Even though I just posted this idea in this site, Guys please don't wait for anyone else's leadership. If you feel you can take this up, please do. It's your idea too. Do not give ownership of any idea to anyone. Why I am writing this at this point of time is I am going through some job transition for which I need a month or 2. So, my participation in this effort may not be up to my own expectations. However I will do whatever I can during this period and much more once I settle in my new job.
Will be in touch.
Sure,
We can setup a Conference call next week Wednesday 3/3/09 8:30PM EST
Here is the bridge info for folks interested in joining
Bridge number: +1 218 339 2626
Passcode: 245906
Bridge can accomodate upto 150 people.
I will be there for this conference call.
Sorry folks for staying away from the communication going on in this thread for some time. I am personally going through some changes now. This Wednesday evening I came to know that my present job assignment is going to end shortly. (Fortunately, I have a new job offer). Now I am in the process of trying to get into this new job and it will take time to get adjusted to this new job. This means, I have to leave my H1b and use AC21/EAD to accept the new job. I had a conversation with one of the attorneys of Murthy law firm regarding all the Pros and Cons of my Job change. I documented the whole conversation and will be posting that to this site shortly for everyone else's use.
Even though I just posted this idea in this site, Guys please don't wait for anyone else's leadership. If you feel you can take this up, please do. It's your idea too. Do not give ownership of any idea to anyone. Why I am writing this at this point of time is I am going through some job transition for which I need a month or 2. So, my participation in this effort may not be up to my own expectations. However I will do whatever I can during this period and much more once I settle in my new job.
Will be in touch.
Sure,
We can setup a Conference call next week Wednesday 3/3/09 8:30PM EST
Here is the bridge info for folks interested in joining
Bridge number: +1 218 339 2626
Passcode: 245906
Bridge can accomodate upto 150 people.
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12-20 10:23 AM
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anilsal
09-07 11:15 PM
Jobs in America is for Americans. If at all it gets outsourced to your country then it is yours. But as long as that job is in my country, I will defend it and not let some Strive or Skill act take it away from me.
How did you assume that our IV members do not have the will to gather together and ask for what they desire?
This IV community will show you at the DC rally and in the future.
You and your so called followers of an antiquated philosophy should read my signature below.
How did you assume that our IV members do not have the will to gather together and ask for what they desire?
This IV community will show you at the DC rally and in the future.
You and your so called followers of an antiquated philosophy should read my signature below.
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abhijitp
11-20 05:20 PM
We have had similar experiences in Southern California as well. We are about a group of 10 - 15 ppl. in so.cal who actively take part in the action items and contribute inspite of having 113 registered members in the chapter. We recruited over 200 newbies in the past three events in southern california. Let's see if we can get all of them to register and get active
Sorry for spelling your name wrong in the Title
NP about the spelling, you just gave me a chance to bump up this thread:)
Sorry for spelling your name wrong in the Title
NP about the spelling, you just gave me a chance to bump up this thread:)
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krish2005
12-04 05:37 PM
I told you folks, that I will be redded. It was true...
You may idolize a super cop or a good cop. But without basic humanity he is not even a human. You might red me on this perhaps. But I would not as its your view and this is my view. I hope other fellow IVians will acknowledge this.
You may idolize a super cop or a good cop. But without basic humanity he is not even a human. You might red me on this perhaps. But I would not as its your view and this is my view. I hope other fellow IVians will acknowledge this.
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realizeit
02-25 03:21 PM
vijay226: The following is just my opinion and it is in no way a personal attack. Please come up with similar ideas like the one you just posted below. Useful or not, all ideas count as long as it is pointed towards solving the issue in a constructive manner.
Reply to your message: We should not propose a fee for this kind of administrative change. There are few reasons for that. 1) This is just a workflow change and an internal procedural change for the USCIS. 2) There is no need for any additional incentive for the government as this is in effect not taking anything extra from the US soil in terms of opportunity etc. 3) Any addition of fee requires administration to get it approved through the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and it will make this a legislative affair. That means the whole assumption of getting it through admin fix becomes invalid. 4) In any case, if administration wants to make some extra money from us, they will come up with that proposal.
Once again thanks for your great point and contribution. Please continue to do so.
i think we are also need to provide some incentive to the government also for doing this,say some nominal fees around 600$ and any one contribute more than that will be tax free which goes into financial bailout package. At the end everyone wins and everyone is happy
Reply to your message: We should not propose a fee for this kind of administrative change. There are few reasons for that. 1) This is just a workflow change and an internal procedural change for the USCIS. 2) There is no need for any additional incentive for the government as this is in effect not taking anything extra from the US soil in terms of opportunity etc. 3) Any addition of fee requires administration to get it approved through the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and it will make this a legislative affair. That means the whole assumption of getting it through admin fix becomes invalid. 4) In any case, if administration wants to make some extra money from us, they will come up with that proposal.
Once again thanks for your great point and contribution. Please continue to do so.
i think we are also need to provide some incentive to the government also for doing this,say some nominal fees around 600$ and any one contribute more than that will be tax free which goes into financial bailout package. At the end everyone wins and everyone is happy
chanduv23
09-07 11:41 PM
In that case make it 10,000 + 11,724 , as we all will be directly or indirectly watching you.
and where did this 11,724 number come from? Is it the rest of IV?
and where did this 11,724 number come from? Is it the rest of IV?
santb1975
11-19 07:34 PM
Hopefully we will reach a 1000 soon. The thread has been active for 4 days so far. Let's see how much we can generate over the next 6 weeks
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